Picked up this jacket today at my local branch after visiting the shop the day before. I got the low down on all of the types of jackets in store from a very clued up sales person. I already have a north face paclight shell. But wanted a jacket to cope with every day winter walking. It's the warmest jacket I have ever owned with the removable down inner jacket. So your getting 2 bits of kit. It has a great hood lots of pockets and even has the zip vents under the arms. I bought this as a 40th pressie to myself with the vouchers I got. So didn't dent my pocket to hard. This will last years!! Quality!