These have the makings of a great pair of trekking trousers - nice light material, comfy, nice length of short when converted - but be careful where you purchase them from as the fit varies wildly. I bought an XS from Cotswolds and exactly the same model, size and colour direct from North Face within the same week, and the two were cut very differently. If I'd bought them a year apart I might expect some inconsistencies but this was ridiculous - one was 2 inches wider in the waist! North Face need to sort out their quality control. A nice pair of trousers but try them on in the shop first.